We talk to strangers on the internet, professionally.

Be the Answer.

When someone asks ChatGPT which apartment, which school or which plumber, the answer comes from what real people said online. Pearl 27's certified Drummers make sure your brand is in that conversation, and in the answer.

200+ Drummers20 countries43 languages29 platforms100,000+ drums since February 2026
200+ Drummers in 20 countries
Drag to spin · each pearl is a Drummer

We talk to strangers on the internet, professionally.

Our story

We hire humans. On purpose.

AI models have become the way people discover brands. Ask which apartment, which supplement, which online degree, and an AI answers, drawing on what real people have said in forums, reviews and threads. Most companies have no way to shape that answer.

Pearl 27 was founded on a simple belief: the internet still trusts a human voice most. So we built the operating system for AI-era discoverability. Pearl Score™ shows where a brand is invisible or misrepresented. Certified Drummers join the conversations that AI models learn from. And we measure what changes.

Most of our Drummers found us through BYU-Pathway Worldwide, an online university program for students around the world. Many started with their first professional job.

20
countries
43
languages
249
jobs created
How we hire

Talent is everywhere. Opportunity isn't.

And we do it on purpose. While the industry raced toward automation, we built a team of real people who join real conversations, under their real names, for brands they believe in.

01
Find.

We partner with BYU-Pathway Worldwide to meet students and graduates in 20 countries: people with real skills and few local options.

02
Train.

Every Drummer trains in writing, brand voice and community work, and practices in the Simulator before touching client work.

03
Certify.

Drummers are certified by client, platform and business unit. Drum leads review their work.

04
Grow.

Drummers report to drum leads, who report to Drum Majors. Careers here are measured in years, not gigs.

What we do

AI with a human beat.

A drum is one real engagement by a certified Drummer: a reply, a review, a post. Every one is published under a real name and disclosed.

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Find the gap.

Pearl Score™ checks what 24 AI models say when your customers ask about your category, and where you are missing or wrong.

01
Fill it with people.

Certified Drummers join the conversations those models learn from: Reddit threads, reviews, LinkedIn, Quora, forums.

02
Measure what moved.

We track your share of voice, sentiment and accuracy across the same models, every week.

03
AEO Diagnostic (Pearl Score™)

Real queries, major AI models, one composite visibility score. Where AI sees you, or doesn't.

04
Reverb

Matches the right conversations to the right Drummers. Authentic participation today, AI citations tomorrow.

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Four business units

One team, four doors.

Pearl 27 helps brands become the answer AI gives. Pearl Score™ finds where a brand is invisible across 24 AI models; certified human Drummers fill the gap with real, disclosed conversation; we measure what moved.

01Consumer

Brands that sell to people: reviews, community, and what AI says when someone asks "which one should I buy?"

02B2B

Forum presence, thought leadership and brand authority for companies that sell to companies

03Home Services

Plumbers, solar, security and local brands that live or die on what neighbors say

04Impact

Universities, causes and mission-driven organizations that need a credible human voice

Live · the drum wall

Every drum is a human beat.

A drum is one real engagement by a certified Drummer: a reply, a review, a post. Every one is published under a real name and disclosed.

drums since February 2026
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today
204
active Drummers
400+
have drummed
29
platforms
Most recent
Facebook31,916
drums, all time
LinkedIn25,467
drums, all time
Reddit15,729
drums, all time
Quora6,827
drums, all time
Instagram5,646
drums, all time
X (Twitter)4,054
drums, all time
YouTube2,487
drums, all time
Pinterest1,906
drums, all time
The people

Led by builders.

Operators who have started airlines, run venture funds, built marketing teams and recruited global talent, now building a new category of work alongside 200+ Drummers.

Matt Downs
Matt DownsFounder & CEO

Co-CEO and Managing Partner of Sandbox Industries, a Chicago venture capital firm and startup studio, and Managing Director of the Blue Venture Fund, with board seats at Lumeris, Solera Health and Somatus. Began his career in Morgan Stanley's M&A group and at Highland Capital Partners. BA, BYU; MBA, Stanford GSB.

Kamie Marsillo
Kamie MarsilloChief of Staff

Keeps the leadership team, its priorities and its calendar moving in one direction.

Wilfred de Guzman
Wilfred de GuzmanCOO

Brand management at Procter & Gamble and Kraft Foods, strategy and operations at McKinsey, corporate strategy at Kimberly-Clark, and customer success at Qualtrics. MBA, Harvard Business School; BS, Computer Science, Stanford. Based in Salt Lake City.

Cate Carabine
Cate CarabineDirector of Operations

Co-founder of Skep, a nonprofit helping Africans build stable, sufficient income. At Pearl 27 she staffs every campaign, matching Drummers to clients across 20 countries, and leads people development. BYU, Exercise Science; Ballard Center for Social Impact.

Wade Eyerly
Wade EyerlyHead of Consumer

Serial founder in heavily regulated industries. Invented the all-you-can-fly subscription model as founder and CEO of Surf Air, later led Beacon and Degree Insurance, and served as an executive at Wheels Up. Managing Partner of Buko Ventures, an emerging-markets fund. Earlier an economist at the Pentagon, a Defense Intelligence Agency officer with a tour in Iraq, and White House staff. MPP, BYU.

Isaiah Kaufusi
Isaiah KaufusiHead of B2B

Former BYU linebacker who signed with the Indianapolis Colts in 2021, then led strategic partnerships at Adobe. Works across partnerships, business development, sales and digital transformation. President of a nonprofit focused on employment across the South Pacific. BYU, Applied Statistics and Analytics.

Brenda Snyder
Brenda SnyderRecruiting & HR

President of HRG Search, an executive search and HR consulting firm. Previously led HR, organizational development, operations and quality at Humana, Honeywell and CenturyLink, and served as BYU-Pathway's partner for global employer relations. Business degree, Regis University.

Nate Jeo
Nate JeoHead of Home Services

Former VP of Marketing at Overstock.com, where he oversaw digital acquisition and performance marketing. 18+ years running paid and digital campaigns, including five years at Wallaroo Media. Accounting, Utah Valley University. Based in South Jordan, Utah.

Brad Nabors
Brad NaborsHead of Impact

Built and led multiple international companies; former C-suite executive at Blackstone portfolio companies; earlier at Spencer Stuart and McKinsey. Works across strategy, data and analytics, talent, turnarounds and executive coaching. MBA, Stanford.

Gabe Villamizar
Gabe VillamizarHead of Training & Social Enablement

Former marketing director at Lucid Software and Droplet. Recognized as a sales and marketing thought leader by LinkedIn, Forbes, Forrester and Salesforce; more than 100,000 professionals have taken his LinkedIn Learning courses on social selling. Marketing, Utah Valley University.

Seth Moore
Seth MooreSenior Advisor

Senior advisor at McKinsey and former Chief Strategy and Analytics Officer at Overstock.com. Expert in AEO and SEO, web analytics, pricing and customer retention. BYU, Analytics.

Clients & results

Twenty-plus brands let Drummers speak for them.

BYU-Pathway Worldwide
Balance of Nature
We Think Big
SafeStreets
Sunrun
Alarm.com
Pando Plumbing
Scaling.com
Ascendant Growth Partners
BookSmarts Accounting
Striv CPAs
CBIG Law
HRG Search
Help Start Education Foundation
Faith Creators Alliance
Saprea
UI Charitable
Core7
Angel Guild
Movie Knight
BODYiQ
Health Decide
Splay Shoes
Case study · AI search visibility

A national student-housing operator went from nearly invisible to leading the AI answer.

Students now start their apartment search by asking AI. In February 2026, a national student-housing operator had three properties buried in the bottom half of Reddit AI's list of popular apartments near a Big 12 campus (#11, #17, #18 of 19).

By July 2026, the operator held four of ChatGPT's top five for "best apartments near campus" (Property A, Property B, Property C, Property D), and led on Reddit AI and Gemini too.

4/5
ChatGPT top picks
6/7
Client properties named by Reddit AI
3/4
Gemini recommendations
Directional before/after, not a controlled A/B. Sources: ChatGPT, Reddit AI and Gemini, Feb 15 and Jul 9, 2026.
Before · Feb 2026 · Reddit AI
"Popular apartments near a Big 12 campus" · 19
1 · Competitor 1
… Competitors 2–10
11 · Property AClient
12 · Competitor 11
… Competitors 12–15
17 · Property BClient
18 · Property CClient
19 · Competitor 16
After · Jul 2026 · ChatGPT
"Best apartments near campus" · 1–5
1 · Property AClient
2 · Property BClient
3 · Property CClient
4 · Property DClient
5 · Competitor 1
In February 2026, a national student-housing operator had three properties near the bottom of Reddit AI's list of apartments near a Big 12 campus. Five months later, it held four of ChatGPT's top five for "best apartments near campus."
Impact

The numbers are people.

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jobs created through our BYU-Pathway partnership
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countries, mostly in Africa, Latin America and the Pacific
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languages spoken natively
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people who have drummed since February 2026
Careers

Your voice has a place here.

We talk to strangers on the internet, professionally. If you write well, care about people and want work that grows with you, join us. Remote, trained, mentored.